The Gateway Objectivist 

The monthly newsletter of the Gateway Objectivists, St. Louis, Missouri 

November 2000 

Vol. 9, No. 11

Newsletter Editor:  Jon Litton


November Meeting: 
East/West movie

We will watch East/West (Est/ouest), a movie about post-war Soviet Union, at our next meeting on Saturday, November 18, at 8 p.m. The meeting will be at the home of Joy & Jeff Kiviat. Call (314) 469-2723 for directions. 

East/West focuses on a family that returns to the Soviet Union in 1946 after Stalin invites emigrants to come back after the war is over. Optimistic as they return, the physician, his French wife, and their young child soon realize they are trapped in a country of horrors. Suspicions, interrogations and fear abound. Their only hope is to find a way to escape to freedom. 

This 1999 Academy Award nominee for Best Foreign Language Film was directed by Regis Wargnier, who also directed Indochine. The film, in French with English subtitles, stars Sandrine Bonnaire, Oleg Menchikov and Catherine Deneuve.

Carolyn Ray lecture

At our last meeting, we listened to "How to Win Arguments," a taped lecture by Carolyn Ray, from this year's TOC Summer Seminar. She presented her observations of arguments between Objectivists and the logical errors they unknowingly commit.

Ray proposed the idea that the best way to avoid argumentative mistakes is by studying fallacies, which she did extensively during the lecture. She also spoke about what it means to win an argument and when you know you've won. 

For both Objectivists and non-Objectivists to argue well, they need to have strong supporting arguments for both their conclusions and their premises. Additionally, they need to develop opposing arguments so they can strengthen their own position. 

Ray said she hears many general reasoning errors made by Objectivists, including being over-emotional, over-generalizing, and lacking self-criticism and knowledge. Ways to improve one's reasoning include being patient and listening, summarizing other's arguments in order to understand them, and listening sympathetically, which she defines as "carefully and objectively." She also discussed a number of other fallacies such as composition, division, relying on axioms, and casting doubt for no reason.

Winning an argument, according to Ray, may only happen in the long term, since it is difficult to convince someone right away. Those who concentrate only on winning appear as extremely stubborn. Ray concluded by saying that you win an argument if you only say things that are true (to the best of you knowledge) and only make good arguments. 

In our discussion after the lecture, many disagreed with Ray's definition of winning, as well as her perception of most Objectivists using poor reasoning skills. We also concluded that agreeing on definitions is required for productive arguments.

Atlas update

Jeannie Williams' USA Today column on October 26 provided the latest information on TNT's Atlas Shrugged miniseries. Producer Al Ruddy plans a five-hour, two-part series.

Screenwriter Susan Black has finished the script, which is 225 pages long. TOC's David Kelley, who conferred with Black during the writing process, is satisfied with the script. Although a majority of the book had to be cut, the theme remains intact and he says, "It will be highly entertaining." According to Ruddy, TNT's Ted Turner also loves the script. 

The producers are now looking for actors and a director. They will begin shooting early next year and hope to air the show next fall. 

For other information on the movie, check out the Unofficial Atlas Shrugged Movie Homepage at www.missliberty.com/FilmAtlas.html. It contains a link to an earlier interview with Ruddy, Black and movie expert Bill Collins. The interview, just published by Prodos.com, is available at www.prodos.com/transcript/atlasmovie.html

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